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Yes Lips.. and it is a place you NEVER want to go, it is a devastating place, a lesson i learned.. Keep your faith, Keep your Hopes, Keep your Dreams.. never ever give up. Stay humble in your life. There is a reason for everything, at the same time.. Whatever will be, will be.. So choose your beliefs carefully.

Yes, I have. It has been over 6 years ago when my grandson died. I remember the moment like it was yesterday. I still have not found my way back no matter how much I try.

Yes, I had one of those.  When my first wife...the only good one I had, was killed by a drunk driver.  She was the most perfect woman....and I blamed God.  But, I eventually came to the conclusion that blaming God for stuff is childish.  It wasn't God's fault, it was the drunk driver. 

Hell of a woman, though.  I miss her every day.......... Not a day in the last 15 years goes by that I don't have a quiet moment and just revisit her in my thoughts. 

Never, and hope I never come close.

Never for me...even when I felt so devastated that I felt like I couldn't go on any more the only thing still kept me on living was my daughter and my faith. I always believe that all those hard times were part of the tests and I knew I had to be strong and had  to cope with them somehow and I felt closer to my faith...the more I prayed, the more I felt humbled!!!

Hmmm.. while I haven't lost my faith in that I stopped believing in a higher power, I am certainly one to test and question what it is that I believe.  I am a seeker and student of religions, and I have come to the conclusion that God is in all of them.  My mom died of cancer after living with me, and then a year later I was diagnosed with the rarest most aggressive breast cancer, and second deadliest there is a year later.  I didn't lose my faith that it was all for a reason.  I still don't know what that reason is just yet, but I believe there has to be one. 

We are only here for a short time and we all have our own cross to bear. I have two daughter that both have an incurable disease and believe me it's hard but it is my faith that keeps me going. I was hit be a drunk driver and have lived my life in a wheel chair ever since. I was on top of the world making over $200,000 a year and lost everything including my house. But when i go to church i get a tremendous feeling of piece and know this too shall all end and soon we will live with the Lord and look back at these days and say Ok so that's Why! up on You don't give up on HIM

mamrone...Your sharing really moved me.  The Lord continue to bless you.  You are in my prayers.

I too had been stuggling with my faith for a bit now. Since my father passed away in Feburary to be honest. I am so pissed that he was taken away to soon, but I do think he is walking with god. There are days when I think what the hell is the point, and then there are other days where I find myself praying things will get better. Then Father Michael comes to see me to find out why I haven't been to church with my husband and daughter. I tell him the truth, I am angry and not sure what to think. He tells me this, "you have the right to be angry, you just lost someone dear to your heart. But god is not the blame, no one is to blame. Your father was and still is a great man, he may not be here physically, but he is in eternity and still very much in your heart. It is so easy to blame god when there is no one else to blame, but if it wasn't for god and you believing in him you wouldn't have these emotions you would be numb. And by looking at your tears, I can tell your not numb. When your ready to come back to the church god will be there to help you through." With that being said I did go back to church and my heart was filled with peace, and to be honest I really didn't think that would happen. I really thought I would leave there being more angry. But I wasn't. The one thing I do know now is that god isn't the blame for my father passing away, god is the one that is taking care of him now. Rest in peace dad because no matter how much pain I still feel, I can take comfort in knowing your walking with god.

LH

I have my alcoholic and drug addict niece who is only 25 living with me and my mom. It has been very, very difficult at times especially when she gets very angry. My faith is the one and only thing that has kept me going. Going to church is where I find complete peace. It gives me great joy. I will never lose my faith no matter what.

Myself, never. No matter how hard things may be, or get, faith is one thing I will always have, and always will. May take everything else I have, but cant take that away from me!

                                      Jacob

picture three men walking in a field and each one of them carring a large den cross as Jesus did. The one says oh Lord it's too heavy please cut this down for me, and the man takes an axe and cuts it down, they walk a little further and the same man says Lord it's still too heavy please cut this down for me, and again the man himself cuts it down. All of a sudden there is a crater that they need to cross, the two men who did not cut their cross laid them down across the crater and walked across, the man who cut his cross could not cross. The moral of the story is that god allows these crosses in our lives because he knows what lies ahead and he tries to prepare us for it. Keep the Faith God will never let you down, He did not bear the pain of the cross to not be there for you no matter what!!!

don't get me wrong there are many times I find myself crying, but I tell myself that I felt sorry for myself cause I had no shoes until I saw the man who had no feet! and some how I go on!

I can't say I've lost my faith, but I sometimes wonder why "bad" things happen to good people.  A coworker and friend of mine was just diagnosed with breast cancer.  She is the sweetest person you could ever want to know.  I find myself asking God, Why?  I'll probably never know the answer, but I really wish I did.

God is not the one that causes bad things to happen Satan is! God is the one that will make something good come out of that bad!

mamrone......I would consider myself a practicing Christian, and I don't blame God for bad stuff.  However, I don't believe in Satan.  Sometimes bad things happen and we don't know why.  We just don't know.

Lips my dear i went thru a real bad depression last time i called the cops on my 15 year old screamed and yelled at god and tried to cut my wrist.  I am angry at such a selfish act i had done but i had lost between my husband and i 9 friends and  family with in a 3 year span. my momm my little sister, my dad all in one year and the next 9 months my uncle his forty year old son and an aunt and two good friends. Then it was my husbands turn his dad, his great grandma, and his niece who had cerebal palsy and we helped raise died.  The my 15 year old starts drugs and beating me up mentally and phsycally god did i give up.  But the one that got me thru is i started having dreams that my family members sometimes one at a time sometimes a bunch would be sitting around my chair holding me.  so hold on tight its when you need him the most and he isnt beside you he is carrying you. love the spazz

lucky....oh, I am sure we would agree on lots of stuff!  Just not health care reform, huh? lol

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mamrone......I would consider myself a practicing Christian, and I don't blame God for bad stuff.  However, I don't believe in Satan.  Sometimes bad things happen and we don't know why.  We just don't know.
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well, if you believe in good than you have to believe in evil as well you can't have one and not the other. Satan is all over the bible

Satan is all over the Bible?  So is the world being held up by pillars.  So are seamonsters.  So are giants.  So are talking donkeys.  And......I don't believe those either.  My belief, non-imposed on others, is our call to behave in a Christ-like manner in life.  The introduction of Satan drangs Christianity down to the level of a Harry Potter movie.

drpsyce let me ask you this????? If there is a God and we know there is right? then why did He have to send His Son down to save us from Evil if there is no Evil??? If all you have to do is be a good person?? Why did Jesus have to die on the cross so we could get into Heaven???

You all are so deep. In my journey that I take with my faith, I never doubted God. I have hated him, but never doubted him. I read somewhere the saying that God's will is what I would choose if I could see the whole picture. But we can't, we can only see and understand such a small amount that we cannot understand.  Pain is inevitable, struggles are certain.  The things we can see, hear and feel will all pass into nothingness, but it is what we cannot see or touch that last forever. We are capable of such wonderful beautiful things.

I have never really lost my faith, but I have questioned God a few times. When my Dad died(he was my best friend and my mentor) I couldn't understand why him. The most important person in my life? He suffered and I couldn't let go of him so he finally had to let go of me. It was a long time before I found my answer and was able to accept it and move on. The second time was when my beautiful little granddaughter lived only 10 days and God took her to be with him. My son was so devastated as was his wife and it was horrible to watch their pain.But I knew she was such a special little angel in every way, and at least we got to know her, love her and be with her even if the time was brief. I am one of those that believe things happen for a reason. After lots of soul searching, and praying I usually find my answer, in my own way, in my own time.

Have you ever considered that we are in hell right now?

I believe that sometimes. We get challenged and it depends on how we handle the challenge what gets us closer to heaven (internal life, peace---whatever) If we don't meet the challenge we will be back to meet it again until we get it.

I know it sounds crazy.   :-\

I never lost my faith, but I too questioned god a few times. My parents both died on the same day 8 years apart..both very tragically, homicide and suicide..and my son passed away when he was 16 months old from RSV. I always felt things happened for a reason, but what in the world was the reason for all of these things...Im still trying to find that out. I have 5 living children so I do my best to work through it, but its hard, very hard. I know, that one day my questions will have answers, but waiting for them is the hard part.

Mommy...
Once again, I am very sorry for your lost...I can not tell you how much I appreciate that you're being such a strong person to share your pain...I feel like I got to know many of you today by sharing experiences, part of our lives together...Saying goodbye to someone  that we feel connected to is without a question, devastating... It is hard to imagine our lives without them, and yet sometimes we have no choice, but to go on. There is an old saying from where I came from that even if you bite 10 fingers, they all hurt the very same...no matter how many children we may have, we love them equally... what I am trying to say is that I know that even though you have five kids but the one you lost is still with you every minutes of your life...If it makes easier MommyMachine,  know that for however long you will be separated you will always be in each others hearts...until the day you meet again...thanks for sharing.

My then-fiance-now-husband Bruce was diagnosed w/ renal cancer in September 2007, we found out on my birthday.  We had just found each other 3 years prior after both thinking we'd never find someone w/ whom 2 spend our lives.  I remember my 1st reaction was 2 lash out @ God & ask Him why He would do such a thing after I had FINALLY found my.  However, I quickly realized that I HAD 2 b strong.  Bruce is very 'tough-guy,' & never showed any fear.  I'm sure he felt it, he just kept it all inside so as not 2 upset me.  I also remember very clearly realizing how life just kept moving 4ward, & I wanted 2 SCREAM @ the world HEY, MY FIANCE HAS CANCER!!!!!!!!!  Bruce had his kidney removed in a newly-pioneered technique through his belly button, here @ the Cleveland Clinic.  As the surgeon put it 2 us @ his 6-week check up:  "No more kidney, no more cancer."  Bruce has been healthy ever since.  The experience changed me; God presents us w/ challenges & bumps in the road.  But I deeply believe that everything happens 4 a reason.  This horrible, scary bump in the road truly made me realize how very lucky I am.  I no longer get upset over anything; life is 2 precious & 2 brief. My faith has never been stronger; not a day goes by that I don't thank God 4 bringing us thru what could have had a completely different ending.